Current policy is that publisher cards for inactives should be kept indefinitely. Of course stuff might get lost or may have been purged by some rogue elder in the last decades.
Anders Andersen
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How long does a congergating keep your records?
by blownaway inone think i just thought of posting on another thread, was due to my wife's parents being ill i will not make public waves.
we have had some of her old cong.
friends show up and do the end is so close and i just shut my mouth.
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JW Door-to-Door Notekeeping Attracts Scrutiny of EU Authorities
by Room 215 ina newly- enacted eu gdpr privacy protection law, to become effective from may 25, has apparently prompted jws to file suit in protest: .
(translated from the italian) .
source: ex-jwblog: http://testimonidigeovachiedono.blogspot.com/2018/05/le-note-di-casa-in-casa-sono-illegali-per-il-gdpr.html):.
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Anders Andersen
I sent in a tip to our national Privacy Authority to make sure they are aware of this verdict, and that JW in my country operate the same way..
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JW Door-to-Door Notekeeping Attracts Scrutiny of EU Authorities
by Room 215 ina newly- enacted eu gdpr privacy protection law, to become effective from may 25, has apparently prompted jws to file suit in protest: .
(translated from the italian) .
source: ex-jwblog: http://testimonidigeovachiedono.blogspot.com/2018/05/le-note-di-casa-in-casa-sono-illegali-per-il-gdpr.html):.
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Anders Andersen
Smiddy,
That's standard operating procedure.
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JW Door-to-Door Notekeeping Attracts Scrutiny of EU Authorities
by Room 215 ina newly- enacted eu gdpr privacy protection law, to become effective from may 25, has apparently prompted jws to file suit in protest: .
(translated from the italian) .
source: ex-jwblog: http://testimonidigeovachiedono.blogspot.com/2018/05/le-note-di-casa-in-casa-sono-illegali-per-il-gdpr.html):.
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Anders Andersen
@corney,
Thanks for the update. I think news like that deserves a new topic to make sure more people read it though ;-)
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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Anders Andersen
This one says it all. Once you answer the hardest questions you'll awake, and you'll be sad because your family will shun you.
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Dutch Branch office response to the motion accepted by Parliament: "an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito"
by jochie intoday a large article was published in a dutch newspaper 'dagblad van het noorden'.
it is about frank huiting, the reclaimed voices foundation and the adopted motion in parliament.
the branch office has given a reaction:.
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ARC Final Report for case study 29 states on p.65, 66, 68,69:
It shows a failure by the organisation to recognise that the rule will more often than not operate in favour of a perpetrator of child sexual abuse, who will not only avoid sanction but will also remain in the congregation and the community with their rights intact and with the capacity to interact with their victim.[...]As discussed in section 7.6, on the basis of the evidence before the Royal Commission, we do not consider that the precautionary or protective measures available within the Jehovah’s Witness organisation are sufficient to protect a child victim of sexual abuse or other children in the community when the child victim is the only witness to the abuse and the perpetrator does not confess.[...]Since it is the policy and/or practice of the Jehovah’s Witness organisation not to report allegations of child sexual abuse to the police or other authorities other than if required by law to do so:• if a known abuser is found to be repentant and for that reason is merely reproved, the abuser remains at large in the congregation and the community•if a known abuser is disfellowshipped and not otherwise dealt with by the authorities, the abuser remains at large in the community.[...]Reproval and disfellowshipping are not effective mechanisms for protecting children in the congregation and in the broader community.Note: in these quotes 'community' refer to the community outside JW, as for the JW community the word 'congregation' is used. -
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How about having a special undercover mode so PIMOs can browse the site with greater security?
by Island Man inwhen you visit the site it says jehovahs-witness big and bold.
a pimo might be browsing the site and a jw might come up behind him unexpectedly and notice he's visiting a site about jws other than jw.org, which can lead to the pimo reported for viewing apostate information.. to help remedy this risk, i was thinking about the possibility of having a button that activates an undercover mode where the title of the site is not prominently displayed so it's not easily apparent to an accidental eavesdropper that it's an apostate website.
also, the color-scheme and graphics can be different so that it doesn't look like the regular site.
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Anders Andersen
You could simply change your browser settings to not load images. In Chrome you could even do this for JWN only.
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Being taught to explain rape when a kid
by purrpurr indoes anyone else recall in the 80s/90s that when the minor/child blood issue was discussed the jw children were taught to say that being forced to have blood would be like rape?
and then had to be able to explain what rape is?
apparently there was a court case were the drs were trying to get a court order to force a blood transfusion on a jw child, and the child said it would be like rape to her and the judge asked her to explain what rape is to see if she understood what she was saying.. that went round my cong at least as a "fine witness " and all the parents were encouraged to have their kids practice the whole "explain rape" thing.. anyone else remember this?.
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Anders Andersen
"Rape is subjecting a person to sexual acts they don't consent to, such as the Jehovah commanded the Israelites to do when they were told to forcibly marry young female prisoners of war."
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Dutch Branch office response to the motion accepted by Parliament: "an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito"
by jochie intoday a large article was published in a dutch newspaper 'dagblad van het noorden'.
it is about frank huiting, the reclaimed voices foundation and the adopted motion in parliament.
the branch office has given a reaction:.
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Anders Andersen
Please any Dutch writers here please contact the relevant people in the Dutch Parliament and ask them to scan every thing the wt says and to never assume the standard norms of conversation, are being honored.
That has been taken care of. Reclaimed Voices is keeping in close contact with the members of parliament that initiated this. Every time I"m pleasantly surprised by the knowledge of the MPs and the timing of next steps. They (RV) are doing a very good job!
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Dutch Branch office response to the motion accepted by Parliament: "an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito"
by jochie intoday a large article was published in a dutch newspaper 'dagblad van het noorden'.
it is about frank huiting, the reclaimed voices foundation and the adopted motion in parliament.
the branch office has given a reaction:.
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Anders Andersen
Watchtower hardly ever responds when asked for commentary by media, and now that they did they're effectively saying Reclaimed Voices and the victims make stuff up. Classy.
They should have said: we're very shocked to hear all this, and although before we never thought we had an issue with child abuse we sure want to get to the bottom of this! Therefore we invite RV to collaborate with us in an attempt to find the extent of the issue.
It's also very telling that Watchtower is basically throwing a red herring. The main issue the victims and RV and the government have with JW is not that JW has a much higher rate of child abuse than the rest of society.
The main problem is that JW offer no proper support to abuse victims and their policies and culture make that child abuse is kept secret without anyone reporting to the police.
By focussing on the numbers and not the culture of secrecy and blind loyalty Watchtowr are deliberately throwing the discussion of course.
As for their child abuse manual (that now they finally have it is being heralded as the best thing ever): al they do is tell everyone they on their own when it comes to abuse, because it's not Watchtower's responsibility.